As the saying goes, it’s scary to think about it carefully, so let’s take a look at the bugs in “Saint Seiya”, haha ​​(ಡωಡ)

BUG in Pluto Chapter

In the Temple at the End of Hell, the Twelve Golden Saints are gathering all their strength, intending to destroy the Wall of Sighs that separates the End of Hell from the Pure Land of Paradise ().

Four bronzes guard the entrance of the temple to prevent underworld warriors from entering the temple and causing damage.

At this time, Minos, the Celestial Star Griffin, one of the three giants of the underworld, came to the door of the temple and started a fight with Si Bronze.

In the middle of the fight, the Golds shot a big hole in the Wall of Sighs. The aftermath of the explosion destroyed most of the temple. The battle between the Four Bronzes and Minos was interrupted. They were both buried in the ruins of the temple and passed out.

When Si Bronze woke up and climbed out of the ruins, he did not find Minos and mistakenly thought that Minos was dead, so he ran towards the Wall of Sighs in the temple.

A hole was opened in the Wall of Sighs by twelve golds. There is a tunnel inside this big hole. Follow the tunnel to the end and you will reach the super-dimensional space. You can reach it by passing through the super-dimensional space.

At this time, three subordinates of Radamantis, one of the three giants of the underworld, chased into the temple and came to the Wall of Sighs.

Therefore, Zilong decided to stay and fight against the three underworld warriors directly under Radamantis. The other three bronzes ran along the corridor towards the super-dimensional space.

When they came to the end of the corridor and were about to jump into the super-dimensional space, Seiya and Shun jumped into the super-dimensional space first. And when Binghe was about to jump into the superdimensional space, Minos suddenly appeared from behind Binghe…

The question is, what was the time and trajectory of Minos' journey?

The question can be simplified to: When did Minos wake up?

Of course, it is impossible to wake up with the four bronzes at the same time, otherwise Minos would think that he is stronger than the four bronzes. From his subsequent fight with Glacier, the aftermath of the twelve gold explosions did not hurt him much. If he had woken up with the four bronzes at the same time, If he wakes up, he will definitely take action immediately instead of pretending to be dead.

What if Minos awoke after four bronzes? That doesn't make sense either. Because the Four Bronze soldiers were divided into two groups in front of the Wall of Sighs, Zilong chose to stay at the entrance of the Wall of Sighs and fight against the three underworld warriors. If Minos wakes up after four bronzes and enters the corridor to pursue three bronzes, he will definitely be discovered by Zilong and the three underworld warriors (and the judges). However there is not…

Minos used invisibility? Not to mention that there is no evidence that Minos knew the art of invisibility. More importantly, everyone in the underworld does not rely on eyesight at all but relies on the eighth sense to identify surrounding information. Invisibility is useless.

So what if Minos woke up before the Four Bronze,? Then he may mistakenly think that the four bronzes are dead (otherwise he will definitely take a last hit). He mistakenly thought that Si Bronze was dead, so he would definitely enter the temple to check what happened to the Wall of Sighs and those golden saints. Naturally, he would find the big hole in the Wall of Sighs. Then he walked along the corridor towards the entrance of the super-dimensional space…

In this way, he will arrive at the entrance of the super-dimensional space earlier than the three bronzes. What he did must be to block the entrance of the super-dimensional space and wait for the three bronzes to be delivered, instead of two of the three bronzes having already jumped into the super-dimensional space. , Minos was belatedly running behind the glacier…

Is it possible that Minos entered the corridor before San Bronze, hid somewhere in the corridor, and waited for San Bronze to pass by his hiding place before pursuing him? I think it’s neither consistent with Minos’ arrogant character nor completely unnecessary.

So how did Minos move so strangely? Is this a BUG?

If I had to explain it, I think there is only one way to explain it. All the above assumptions are based on the fact that Minos' trajectory was continuous.

What if Minos' trajectory was not continuous? In other words, Minos used teleportation.

I think this is a possible explanation.

Animation BUG

1. Star Flower and Magic Bell

When Seiya was sent to Greece, he saw Loli Xinghua crying and chasing her far away.

When Seiya arrived in Greece, he immediately entered the door of the Silver Saint Magic Bell. At this time, Mo Ling was already a hot lady.

They were both 9 years old at the time.

I'm too lazy to complain about "the hot 9-year-old Bai Yinyu sister". I just want to ask – why did you Xingya believe it immediately when Hound said "The magic bell is your sister Xinghua"! ? Do you have any brains? ?

2. Wallgrass Saga

In the Pope's Hall, Xiao Ai forced Gong Saga, and Saga came out to protect him. The two fought for a thousand days. Saga took the opportunity to make a sneak attack, controlled Xiao Ai with the Phantom Demon Emperor Fist, and made a lot of classic villain remarks.

However, Shaka, who witnessed the whole process, still said firmly when facing Ikki, "The Pope in my eyes is just."

Even if you don’t know that the Phantom Demon Emperor Fist is exclusive to Geminis, and even if you don’t know that Xiao Ai is a tough-minded hero, you should know that people who engage in sneak attacks and control killings are not good people!

Even the muscle-brained soldier Cassios knows that something is wrong with the Pope, okay? ?

3. The god-like man Mitsumasa Kido

Kido Mitsumasa, who is over 60 years old, gave birth to 100 boys with different women in two to three years, and he had no children of other age groups. (The youngest Shun is 13 years old at the beginning of the plot, and the eldest Ikki is 15 years old)

According to normal proportions, there should be about 100 girls.

This does not include those who were not conceived, those who were pregnant with unwanted children, and those who died at birth…

The Galactic War began in 1983, and the practical in vitro fertilization technology was born in 1979, so there was no possibility of in vitro fertilization. The old man had to give birth to all the children by himself.

In other words, Mr. Kido lived a puritan-like life all his life, but when he was about 60 years old, he suddenly went crazy and hunted women for the purpose of fertility. Within three years, he had affairs with hundreds of women all over the world.

The 100 boys are all orphans, they all look completely different, and none of them look like their father, and most likely they all look like their mother.

This means three things:

First, this old man has no genes related to appearance.

Secondly, the old man has been in a state of complete madness in recent years. He casts his net all over the world and doesn’t choose at all, as long as he can survive. Among the women he hunted were the most beautiful women like Binghe's mother, and the city senior's mother who was unworthy of the audience.

Third, all of these women died after giving birth to sons, and with the exception of Hyoga, no one told their children, "Your biological father is Kido Mitsumasa." Coincidence? Was he silenced? Anyway, Binghe's mother died very strangely, and what the crew said at that time seemed to be clearly telling Binghe, "Go and become a Saint."

Then for no reason, the old man ran to a deserted remote corner on the border of the Greek sanctuary, alone and without any entourage, and "happened" to meet Da Ai who had fled.

After Da Ai broke out alone with his young master in his arms, under the basic premise that "no one is worthy of trust", he handed over the goddess and the golden holy dress to an old man he had never met! ?

Athena is almost the same age as the youngest Shun, so before the civil strife in the sanctuary, these 100 boys were already produced. Moreover, after giving birth to 100 boys, the old man immediately ran to Greece to receive Athena.

It can be concluded that the entire Hundred Sons Sacrifice Incident was no accident, but an extremely thorough plan that started a few years before Saga usurped the throne and lasted for more than ten years.

The last person to "break out of the siege alone with a young master in mind" was Zhao Yun. After breaking out of the siege, he handed the child to the child's biological father.

So do you think this old man is really Athena's biological father…

Finally, I especially want to know who Ikki and Shun’s mother is. She was probably the most favored woman in Guangzheng's harem. Others only had one child. She gave birth to two children back to back, and one was the strongest and the other was the purest (so she was chosen by Pluto as the reincarnation container)… This woman is not simple. ah!

Age bug

Saint Seiya If you go back and review this work now, you will find that there are many loopholes and bugs in the settings. However, the biggest bug is undoubtedly the age setting of the characters involved in the work. Here are some Let’s take a look at the specific analysis and review.

1. The age setting of the protagonist group is too young

There was a huge bug in the age setting of Saint Seiya at the beginning. It may be to take care of the setting of Golden Saint Seiya, which caused the protagonist team to have abnormal age. With such a good body and shape, the average age is 13-14 years old. This It’s so abnormal. In comparison, the characters of the students in Resistance look much more normal. 17-18 years old is a more reasonable setting, especially Athena, with such a good figure, you tell me she is 13 age? Seiya was born in 1973, the same age as Mr. Guo Degang.

2.10-year-old Shura destroyed Da Ai

The most buggy part in the age setting is the age of Gold. When Xiaoqiang broke into the 12th house, except Da Ai and Saga, everyone was in their early 20s. This directly caused a bug in Shura's age, because the attack on Da Ai Ai happened 13 years ago. According to the set age, Shura was only 10 years old at the time. How did he destroy Ai? Golden Soul performed very well in this aspect, painting Shura as a shota, which is a disguised form of completing the setting.

3. Kamuo became a teacher at the age of 20

Originally, the original work had a bug in the setting of the ages of the protagonists, and the old version of the animation made it even worse, further amplifying the age bug problem. In order to expand the plot, many new characters and plots were originally created, such as Crystal Saints, the setting is Hyoga's master, Camus was his master. However, Camus was only 20 years old at the time. The age difference bug was too serious. This also made the subsequent animation not mention the Crystal Saint. This original character is also quite pitiful. .

Plot bug

1. Galactic War

In this game with the Sagittarius Golden Saint Cloth as the bet, the book "Saint Seiya" kicked off. There is nothing wrong with the story itself, but there are flaws when it comes to the later chapters.

Time: When Seiya and Magic Bell parted

Location: Sanctuary

Event: Seiya asked to see the true face of the magic bell before leaving

Result: In the picture we can clearly see that the magic bell took off the mask

Question: Did the magic bell show Seiya's face?

Analysis: You will learn from the following that the magic bell was not shown to Seiya because Sharla explained that "after showing the face of the female saint to a man, there are only two choices – marry that man or kill him", so… ..The answer is obvious. Then the screen that appears before the story begins is a BUG. In the character design, Master Kurumada should have considered the setting of the female saint. From the beginning, the female saint wore a mask. Maybe Kurumada initially wanted to bring Seiya and Magic Suzu together (don’t 874 me). This cannot but be said to be a pity in "Saint Seiya".

2. The Battle for the Golden Cloth

Including all the battles surrounding the Golden Cloth of Sagittarius before the Battle of the Zodiac.

Question 1>The reason for the existence of the Dark Saint? ? If there was no Galaxy War, if there was no Ikki, would they still exist? The original rule that one constellation corresponds to one Saint was invalidated here, and the "Four Dark Kings" and five Dark Phoenixes appeared out of thin air. If the other five Saints win the Galactic War, will the Four Dark Kings change their masters again?

Maybe Kurumada couldn't give a satisfactory answer here, so he let them die hastily, and no new Dark Saints appeared until the end of the play. Death Queen Island and the Dark Saints can only exist in our memories forever.

Question 2>What does Sagittarius’ golden holy garment look like. In the book, we can clearly see the appearance of the helmets Seiya and the others have, but the Sagittarius who appeared to protect Seiya when Aiolia attacked Seiya has become the style we see now. Although the explanation was given in the cartoon – the Sagittarius Saint Cloth relied on its own will (?) to sink to the bottom of a certain lake and changed its shape, but now that we are discussing the cartoon, it is obvious that the explanation in the cartoon is unsatisfactory.

3. The Battle of the Zodiac

Question 1>The strength of Yardi the Taurus. Is Yardi weak or strong?

The author gives readers an idea at the beginning – he is very powerful – because Yaldi's moves have a style that combines swordsmanship. As we all know, the Kukui sword is a very famous and substantial school in Japan. The reason why it is powerful is that victory or defeat can only be achieved in one move, leaving no escape route for oneself. Courage and strength are the essential requirements of this genre. However, Yardi seemed completely unable to resist after one move. The difference in strength was obvious, and his combined swordsmanship was also brilliant. Think about it, the subsequent death of Yardi was also related to this.

4. The Mystery of the Four Dark Kings

Let’s not talk about where the Dark Saints come from, and who made those Dark Saint Cloths. I just want to complain about the "Four Kings of Darkness". Why do these four guys happen to be the top four in the copycat Galaxy War, and are also the four protagonists of this comic?

Ikki: I didn’t mean to appoint someone, and I didn’t mean anything like that. It was just a coincidence, hahahaha…

Another thing I'm curious about is, if other Bronze Saints – such as Xie Wu – win in the Galactic War, will there be another "Dark Unicorn"?

5. The arrow in Athena’s chest

In front of the Twelve Palaces, Saori was shot in the chest by an arrow from the Sagittarius Saint sent by the Pope. This plot is very baffling. Let’s not forget that since the Pope wanted to kill Shazhi many times, why didn’t he use an ordinary arrow to shoot her directly, but he chose to use a golden arrow that would take effect after twelve hours? If this arrow is the only one that can cause harm to the reincarnated goddess, then why didn't you send the Sagittarius to Japan before? In Japan, there were a lot of Silver Saints as cover, so the chance of hitting Saori was probably much higher than fighting alone. If Saori was hit by an arrow in Japan, and the only person who knew how to save her was in the sanctuary, she would definitely be dead. This was simply a deliberate attempt to leave twelve hours for the Five Little Stronges to break through.

And the Sagittarius Saint is also very strange. When he was beaten to death, he not only gave a gentle reminder that only the Pope can pull out this arrow, but also thoughtfully said that it must be effective within twelve hours… If he Don't say anything. It is estimated that the five little strong will first become a mess, and then try to send them to the hospital for rescue or something. It is impossible to rush directly to the Pope's Palace with a clear goal. The wasted time is enough to kill the goddess—— After all, Seiya and the others succeeded in saving people at the last second. All in all, the author really took great pains to bring out the drama of the five little heroes breaking through, but this reason seems far-fetched.

6. The Indifferent Golden Saint

When Seiya and others bravely entered the Twelve Palaces, a large number of Golden Saints were watching from behind, and no one except Aiolia offered to help. Of course Mu explained: "This is a test given by God to Athena. If she can't defeat even a mere evil incarnation like Saga, she won't be able to win in the upcoming Great Holy War." But the problem is, let the five Is there any essential difference between using bronze to help her tide over difficulties and using gold saints to help her? And since the reincarnated goddess was going to be tested, why did Aiolos save her 13 years ago? Let her overcome the difficulties on her own. Also later in the Poseidon Chapter, Tong Hu was stunned and did not allow the Golden Saints to support the five bronzes, although the author later explained that this was to prepare for the battle with Pluto. But what if Athena was not rescued by Bronze and died at the bottom of the sea? If the organization is gone, who will we fight with? Many people suspect that the Golden Saints are not very loyal to the goddess, and it is not without reason.

7. The Thousand-Sun War between Shaka and Aiolia

During the Thousand Suns Battle between Saga and Aiolia, Saga took the opportunity to sneak attack Xiao Ai with the Phantom Demon King Fist, causing Xiao Ai to become a bad guy. The question is – what is Shaka doing at this time? There are only two explanations, either he was knocked unconscious by Xiao Ai, but Shaka was "the man closest to God"; or he allowed the Pope to sneak attack Xiao Ai and became an accomplice, but Shaka later attacked a man Hui said: "The Pope doesn't have any particularly evil feelings…" Doesn't this mean he is slapping himself in the face?

8. The Sacred Cloth of Cancer

In the Zodiac Chapter, Dismasco is simply a heinous villain. Let alone being a Saint, I don’t think he is even qualified to be a human being. So later the Golden Saint Cloth of Cancer discovered his evil and abandoned him. But before the battle with the Purple Dragon, Dismasco didn't do bad things every day or two. Don’t you see that the heads of the people he killed all have Cancer Palaces on them? How many bad things must be done? Why didn't the Holy Clothes abandon him in those previous times?

9. Leisurely Aiolos

After Aiolos was ordered to be hunted down by the Pope, he didn't even know to put on the golden holy clothes. Instead, he carried such a heavy box on his back. Do you think this was an escape or a vacation? What's even more embarrassing is that he actually had the time to go to the Centaur Palace and carve words on the wall – "Young men, the goddess has entrusted her to you." (He actually knew that several "young men" would come in more than ten years. Centaur Palace!! And isn’t he a fourteen-year-old “boy” himself?) What’s even more amazing is that after he finished carving the words, he re-pasted the wall with bricks… I said if you have this skill, you should have escaped long ago Went to the Mediterranean…

10. Libra and Sagittarius are a waste of time

When the five little heroes bravely entered the twelve palaces, time was so tight, but they just didn't know how to save time. They had to spend an hour in each palace. For example, in the Libra palace, they could just use the golden sword to cut open the ice coffin and rescue Binghe. Okay, a fool should have figured out that the sword that was most suitable for rescuing Binghe was not the spear, shield, nunchaku or something like that, right? What could be done in five minutes, Zilong had to take the trouble to dismantle the Libra Saint Cloth and display the weapons one by one. After rescuing Binghe, he looked at the time: Oh, another fire clock has gone out… What's even more outrageous is the Centaur Palace. There's no one guarding it anyway, so they can just rush over and be done with it. However, those few people were stunned and spent a whole hour in the Centaur Palace. No matter how touching Aiolus's message was, there was no need to send it for an hour. Are you staying?

11. True and False Popes

As we all know, Saints have small universes, and they can perceive each other's small universes. For example, if a Saint is beaten to death, others will notice with horror: so-and-so's small universe has disappeared… Then Shion was spread After Jia was killed, a small universe as powerful as the Golden Saint disappeared, and no one noticed it. It is really difficult to explain.

12. Poseidon’s strength

As we all know, Poseidon was killed by several bronzes wearing golden holy clothes, but later in the underworld chapter, the God of Death wiped out five sets of golden holy clothes with a wave of his hand. After all, Poseidon is also a boss at the same level as Hades, but his strength is far inferior to the two second-rate gods, Death and Sleep? Of course, some people say that this is because Poseidon borrowed a human body, and the gods of death and sleep are their real bodies. But if the strength is reduced to such a degree by changing bodies, it can only be said that Poseidon is too weak.

Thirteen, the miserable Tonghu

Tong Hu sat motionless in front of the Wulao Peak in Lushan Mountain for more than two hundred years, rain or shine. It seemed that he didn't even have time to go to the toilet. But the problem was – it seemed meaningless for him to stay there. When the time came, Athena's The seal will naturally be released, and the One Hundred and Eight Demonic Stars will be resurrected when they need to be resurrected, and they will attack the Holy Area when they need to attack the Holy Area. So what's the point of him staying there for the past two hundred years? Might as well find a place to hibernate. Even if you have to monitor the seal to prevent it from accidentally falling, you can find someone else. There is no need to have a Golden Saint on duty around the clock without holidays.

14. The resurrection time of the Underworld Warrior

The Underworld Warriors (One Hundred and Eight Demonic Stars) were obviously resurrected after Athena's seal was released. They had been sleeping for more than two hundred years before. But the beast star Falao teamed up with Pluto to trick the Lyra Silver Saint Oluffi – Olphi must have gone to the underworld after the last holy war, otherwise it would be hard to believe that during the last holy war, the saints The army fought hard until only Tong Hu and Shi Ang were left, but Olufei was still hiding in the underworld. The question arises: where did this beast star come from at that time?

15. Man cannot shake his fist at God

In the Underworld Chapter, when Shaka was about to defeat Shun, who was possessed by Hades, Saori stopped him: "People cannot punch gods!" This highest instruction is too ORZ. People cannot punch gods. Bar? Then what are we mortal saints doing here? You can go and shake your fist at God by yourself, we won’t accompany you anymore. By the way, why did Saga dare to stab you with a knife before? Aren’t you also a god? …Well, because he's a bad guy! ! ……What? What happened to Poseidon? Isn't his situation exactly the same as Hades? Why didn't you stop us then? Does it mean that people can't punch God, but it doesn't matter if they slash with swords and arrows? ……Enough! ! Man cannot talk back to God! !

16. Galleons died in vain

In order to break through the Wall of Sighs, one must collect twelve golden holy clothes. This is understandable. However, at this time, Garen had already defeated Radamandis without any fighting spirit, and it was estimated that he would be able to capture him in a few more minutes. You've already been wasting your time for so long, why do you have to fight for these few minutes? Can't we wait until Garen kills Radamandis before taking away his holy robe? Therefore, Garen, who lost his holy clothes, had no choice but to die together with Radamandis. One of the most powerful Golden Saints died in vain. To be honest, Garen's death method was really lighter than a feather… No wonder some people suspect that the Golden Saints are taking this opportunity to eliminate dissidents from the Sea Fighters.

Seventeen, nine stars in a row

Many people have pointed out this big loophole in Nine Stars Lianzhu, so I won’t go into too much nonsense. Just to briefly explain, it is impossible to cause an "eternal solar eclipse" by arranging nine planets in a straight line, because Mercury and Venus in front of the earth cannot block the sunlight at all due to their distance, and the remaining six planets behind the earth cannot block the sun. , it has no impact on whether there is a solar eclipse or not, it can only play an aesthetic role… Only the moon can cause a solar eclipse, but a solar eclipse, especially a total solar eclipse, can only affect a very small area on the earth.

18. Where did the Saints come from?

According to the setting of the comic, the 88 saints corresponding to the 88 constellations have been fighting for the goddess since the age of mythology… However, people's habit of naming these constellations in the sky can only be traced back to the ancient Greek times. Some The constellations were even named in the 18th century AD, such as the Circus, the Rectangle, the Telescope, the Microscope, the Sextant, the Compass… Where can I find these things in the mythical era? ? Even if these constellations had other names in the mythical age, how could there be exactly 88 of them? This loophole is so huge that it simply shakes the foundation of the entire comic…

Postscript: Master Kurumada, you are really…

If I say "Saint Seiya" is a comic full of bugs and loopholes, it may hurt many people's beautiful childhood memories, but it is indeed the case.

In terms of the number of bugs, it is estimated that few comics can compare with Saint Seiya. Kurumada is really good at drawing and stirring up emotions, but his ability in arranging plots cannot be praised, so he has no choice but to draw this kind of hot-blooded comics all his life, because this kind of comics does not require too complicated plots and only needs to be started from scratch. Just hit it to the end.

But there are so many loopholes in this kind of manga with a simple plot. Master Kurumada, you are really…

Looking at these loopholes, some are caused by the author sacrificing the rationality of the storyline in order to highlight the important status of the five protagonists, such as the Golden Saints standing still during the Battle of the Twelve Palaces and the Battle of the Sea Emperor; some are caused by the author himself not paying attention Regarding the connection between the plot and the setting, for example, no one discovered Shion's small universe after it disappeared; some of the settings themselves are unreasonable, such as Mitsumasa Kido's "A Hundred Sons Sacrifice" and the age of the Golden Saints; some are It is purely a lack of knowledge on the part of the author, such as the Nine Stars Lianzhu problem.

Regardless of whether you are a true fan or a casual fan, there is no need to be shy about these loopholes. Many loopholes were discovered and corrected as early as when the cartoon was released. For example, the plot of Baizi worshiping the gods was deleted from the cartoon. Another example is the wasted time in the Centaur Palace. A maze was added to the cartoon and it became more reasonable. The movie "Legend of Sanctuary" that was released later made drastic changes to the plot and filled in many loopholes. For details, you can read this article: Subversion and Transcendence of "Legend of Sanctuary" – Zhihu Column)

Of course, in the end I have to say that no matter how many loopholes Saint Seiya has, it cannot change its classic status in the minds of our generation. Pointing out these loopholes is not to find fault, but is another example of our love for it.